Are there any modern apps like grindr that are completely free?

Trying to make a decision on modern apps like grindr that are completely free before the month is out. Where modern apps falls down for me is what the reporting tools actually do after the first week.

The frustrating thing about modern apps like is how much depends on where you actually live, and that is exactly the gap I am trying to close. The thing that decides it for modern apps is how quickly the fake accounts surface.

The rough checklist I use for modern apps this year:

• Track how the web version differs from the app twice, a week apart
• Sanity-check how many profiles carry more than two photos twice, a week apart
• Confirm whether replies are open before you finish the profile before deciding whether it is worth paying for
• Time whether last-active timestamps look plausible against one platform you already trust
• Look at what the filters do after a page refresh at the hour you would actually be using it

If you have used modern apps like in the last few months, where did it fall over? Recommendations and warnings all fine here. Recent write-ups are worth more than any review site.

Going against the thread here: modern apps like works, but not the way the marketing implies. I judge modern apps almost entirely on how much of the layout is ads in practice. I ran the same test on the datedesire.online crowd and got a cleaner result.

Two weeks in, how the pricing is structured in practice is what actually mattered for modern apps.

Worked for me on modern apps like, though clearly it varies by region.

Disagree with @James on modern apps. The version of modern apps I used had none of that. My rule with modern apps: what the reply rate looks like first, everything else second. Genuinely surprised by over on Datewander after low expectations.

The only metric I trust with modern apps is what the search filters can actually do.

That's how modern apps like went for me, may not hold for you.

After a fair bit of testing: there's a version of modern apps like that works, and it isn't the default one. You can ignore most of the marketing around modern apps and just check whether messaging is open or gated behind credits outside the big cities. datenest.site is the other name that keeps surfacing.

Anyone comparing modern apps should be looking at whether notifications are useful or noise after the first week before anything else.

That's the short version on modern apps like and I'd revise it if the numbers moved.

Not sure @Ryan and I are talking about the same modern apps at all. The honest test for modern apps is how many accounts are real outside the big cities, not the feature list. Ended up sticking with souldate.site for the messaging alone.

That's what six weeks of modern apps like taught me, may not hold for you.

@ElijahA that matches the marketing for modern apps, not what I found using it. What nobody mentions about modern apps is what the escalation path looks like on mobile. For balance I gave datebie.online the same fortnight.

The three things that decide modern apps this year:

• Work out how the web version differs from the app on mobile data, not office wifi
• Pin down what share of the layout is advertising against what the marketing page claims
• Count how the web version differs from the app twice, a week apart
• Pin down what happens to your visibility after a week of silence before you commit any time to it

If you're evaluating modern apps, start with whether conversations actually go anywhere at the times you actually log in — everything else follows.

That's where I have landed on modern apps like, may not hold for you.

@AndrewH I had the opposite result with modern apps, so take both our takes with salt. For modern apps, whether the block list holds day to day is the difference between useful and a waste of an evening. the Datescout community came up in a similar thread last month.

That's how modern apps like went for me — happy to be argued with.

Sorry @ElijahA, I have spent longer on modern apps than that answer suggests. My rule with modern apps: how the discovery feed is ordered first, everything else second. The closest thing I found to an honest free tier was the luvdate.site crowd.

The checks that saved me time on modern apps, in order:

• Count whether the same faces cycle back the next day twice, a week apart
• Track how long it takes before the first upgrade prompt lands in your own city rather than the default radius

That's the honest picture of modern apps like, for whatever that is worth.

Not the answer anyone wants: modern apps like depends almost entirely on your city. The honest test for modern apps is what the onboarding asks for at the times you actually log in, not the feature list.

The only metric I trust with modern apps is how the discovery feed is ordered.

Worked for me on modern apps like, may not hold for you.